# Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b

api.venice.ai deprecated the model Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b without giving a shutdown date yet.

api.venice.ai has deprecated the model Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b without a shutdown date. Calls using this model will fail once the retirement takes effect. This change directly affects any integrations targeting the Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b model.

## What to use instead

Use DeepSeek V4.1 Flash instead.

- API: api.venice.ai (api.venice.ai)
- Model: Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b
- Kind: Model retirement
- Takes effect: no date given yet
- Calls after that day: fail
- Calls it hits: `model Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b`
- Source: [Changelog](https://venice.ai/changelog)
- Verified: November 2, 2026, against api.venice.ai's own pages
- Page: https://www.okapi.bot/models/api-venice-ai/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b/

## api.venice.ai's words

> Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b→replaced by [DeepSeek V4.1 Flash](https://basehub.venice.ai/models/deepseek-v4-1-flash)

Okapi finds the calls this change hits in your repo and opens the pull request with the fix: https://github.com/apps/okapi-agent
